.Andrei Pivovarov was one of the 16 prisoners freed from Russia in last week's primary prisoner swap in between Moscow as well as the West.The popular opponent activist, 42, was pulled off a Warsaw-bound airplane through Russian surveillance companies in 2021 after the pro-democracy group Open up Russia, which he headed, was outlawed as " undesirable." He was actually sentenced to 4 years behind bars in 2022 for his work with the team.The Moscow Moments talked to Pivovarov concerning the swap and his prepare for the future:.MT: Exactly how did you believe when you were actually being needed to the flight terminal? Performed you understand that it was actually a swap?AP: Due to the time our experts reached the airport terminal, it was presently clear that our team were being needed to an exchange, however our team didn't understand where.I reckon I fully comprehended the very simple fact of what was taking place when I was being actually extracted from the swarm on Sunday early morning. It was the 25th [of July] I realized that something extraordinary was actually going on given that I was gotten by the head of the nest as well as he individually helped me carry my factors. Yet there were actually no specifics.You have a tendency to think awful in any sort of unclear circumstance. I possessed all type of thought and feelings. But there was actually a second when I was actually sent out-- I needed to authorize for a dry out ration. And also I observe a title on the previous line: Alexandra Skochilenko. And also I ensure that if Sasha and I are actually all together, it's hardly a bad story.I assumed that it will be like in the flicks-- a scene where our experts are absolved due to the tsar as well as discharged in front of the RT cameras. The second possibility was a model of the thinkers' aircraft, which however turned out to be extra actual in life.However everything was actually concealed until the exact conclusion. When our experts were brought to Lefortovo [Prison, just before the substitution], our experts were in seclusion as well as can certainly not contact any individual.On Thursday morning they delivered our team a launch certification without order number, nothing. Our company possessed half an hour to pack, our company carried our factors.There were actually individuals in hides and also attires along with our company. If some of our team resisted and refused to be expelled, their task was to put us on the airplane whatsoever. They explicitly informed us that thereafter.The initial person I saw on the bus was actually [Ilya] Yashin. It was actually certainly great to find him. There knew and unknown skins afterwards, yet personally, I was very anxious whether Volodya Kara-Murza will be there. He was among the final to become brought in, which was actually a big relief, considering that he has the longest sentence.Perform you know who lobbied for your introduction in the list?Exactly how the checklists were actually formed is a mystery to me. I have not been able to consult with all my colleagues yet. From my understanding, there were actually various groups from which relevant information was actually collected and also the final checklist was actually much higher what you have actually viewed. As well as it was actually reduced by Russia. When all the wishes were actually picked up and also corresponded as well as sort of set, far fewer individuals were inevitably released.You were actually expected to be released in a month ...This is among the absolute most hard points for me. If you consider my illegal suit, the period that I had actually left [to serve] can not be compared to the terms of the others [political captives]I may mention that I know coming from several resources that the possibility of my release [at the end of my sentence] was certainly not guaranteed. That's why I ended up on the list. Our company have actually found examples where individuals were detained on their escape of the nest given that some new illegal situations were opened. And however, there were calls that claimed that in my situation, the result may not be actually the very best.What are your programs currently? Do you know what you will do in the near future?I am actually currently a person with no documents and no feeling of home. I was actually released a Russian inner key and also I have 2 papers-- one substitutes my [international key] and the second substitutes my visa. As it was actually clarified to me, these papers allow me to stay in Germany for 15 times-- primarily in Germany, certainly not in the EU. It's challenging to make serious plans. So initially, certainly, I want to deal with the residential facets.And then-- I have actually been performing social and political work with 15-20 years. My keep in penitentiary performed certainly not repel me from it, yet however determined me a lot more. I possess some suggestions, as I possessed opportunity to presume as well as ponder [behind bars]As well as the primary objective listed here, perhaps, is actually to attempt to speak a lot more with those that stayed inside [Russia] To attempt to offer a strategy to collaborate with those that might certainly not be our supporters, however who are annoyed with what is happening. If we can easily provide [individuals in Russia] the possibility to express themselves without putting themselves at major threat, I presume that's what an autonomous pressure needs to perform.